Eli5: How do high level narco members stay hidden, while living very wealthy?

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I am more talking about the bosses. I just can’t understand what they do with their money to enjoy it. I mean if you are on a most wanted list, I assume you can’t drive around in a 400k luxury car or stay in the biggest house with all the extravagant parties.

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Anonymous 0 Comments

>I mean if you are on a most wanted list, I assume you can’t drive around in a 400k luxury car or stay in the biggest house with all the extravagant parties.

You sure can.

There are at least two typical scenarios.

First case: the government can’t actually prove that you’re the boss. “Everyone knows”, but that doesn’t mean there’s enough evidence to successfully make the case in a court. Further, you might actually have corrupt law enforcement and/or judges on your side. So you can party with impunity in New York or wherever.

Second case: *a* government can prove you’re the boss, and would be willing and able to lock you up – but that doesn’t mean *every* government is on board. For example, the US might have you on a most wanted list, but US agents can’t grab you anywhere in the world. There are places that don’t extradite to the US. There are places that might technically extradite but won’t be willing to cooperate, or don’t have the resources to do it. So you can party in many other big cities, even if you can’t party in New York.

Anonymous 0 Comments

They are very well armed and protected. They buy off politicians and locals. The cartels have better weapons than the police in a lot of cases. They don’t need to hide, and when they do they have like 20 houses to hide in.

Edit: they’re big rich bullies, who everyone is either scared of them or they give them money to leave them alone.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Tons of people get caught because “making a bunch of money illegally” isn’t *that* difficult, but “*spending* a bunch of money and you can’t explain where it came from” gets harder every year and because you’re spending money *in your name* any operational security failure past or present can bring you down.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Sex, drugs and violence. Money is only a means, the ends for every man can be reduced to only three things sex, drugs and violence. Sex isn’t just the dirty deed, its family, a man’s wife and children, parents and siblings. Drugs include dopamine and the emotional feelings associated with power and powerlessness, hope and hopelessness, health and sickness. Violence is the ability to exert your will upon the world in ways that reverberate your power. The hero uses violence to slay the villain, violence maintains peace and facilitates change.

To the lawless the only protection you are allowed to know is correlated to the amount of violence you can exert both in life and death. The wild cartel smut videos are not produced as entertainment but as an open display ‘look at my power, the law could not protect this man from me, how could it protect you?’ Narcoes errode the law by purchasing police who can be manipulated because as individuals they are each at risk of cartel reprisals. Therefore if the law can be separated down to it’s constitute parts it is in effect meaningless.

High level Narcoes are not hidden, they rule by the sword of Damocles forever swinging above their heads. They keep themselves safe not by hiding but by publicly displaying their power making even the law afraid to interfere. If the law fears a man shouldn’t you?

Anonymous 0 Comments

1. They look like legit and very successful businessmen

2. They live in countries with very corrupt governments and police

3. Just because we “know” that they are narco leaders, doesn’t mean there’s actually enough proof, they have expensive lawyers and don’t do their own dirty work.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Drug lords are very good at hiding how they make money, that’s called money laundering, and that makes it very hard to link that money with the drug business, so they can drive around an expensive car without worries.

Now, if you mean someone who is already identified as drug lord it and it’s free, it probably means that the law is looking for them so driving around a flashy car is not a very good idea and usually they pay people to help them hide.

Anonymous 0 Comments

I don’t think they always need to stay hidden, not currently in Mexico, at least.

IIRC, few years ago, the son of el Chapo was arrested. His men started to create chaos in the city, I think they even kidnapped a couple of police men until he was released?. Because he was, actually, released. It was ordered by the president,  AMLO.  Who seems quite friendly with cartels: there’s a video of him hugging his mother and he said a famous sentence about hugs instead of bullets to fight against them. 

Months later, at least one cop responsible for the detention was killed in his house.

Maybe I don’t remember all the details correctly, but you get the idea.

Anonymous 0 Comments

In the Narco situation specifically, It’s usually because of one or more of three reasons. 1) they don’t have the resources, 2) they don’t have the support (or they themselves are on the side of the cartel), or 3) the cartel usually has a large enough opposition that to arrest that person usually means a significant battle that probably would mean a lot of death on both sides.

And all three also carry the implication that 1) they will be able to escape, 2) politicians will free them, and 3) their narco army will bust them out.

And at that point a lot of them don’t see the arrest as worth it, especially when the arrest doesn’t actually fix the issue at hand because someone will take their place and it’ll repeat itself

Anonymous 0 Comments

I don’t see anyone saying this – but stability.

When you knock out high level members, it creates power vacuums that often lead to a much worse situation for awhile.

If you are going to take down organizations, you try to cut out as big a part as you can – that way the remaining structure has to accept being folded into another criminal group that is now going to take over. Someday the new group will be targeted, but for the meanwhile they will transition in mostly peacefully.

If you take out only a couple people, especially high up, you kick off internal wars for who takes lead and you kick off external wars with the other groups who sees an opportunity .

Anonymous 0 Comments

Putin (Russia) is believed to be the richest man in the world, but on paper he makes about $115k/y as President. He gets away with it because he makes a lot of *other* people rich at the same time.