Eli5 if the universe is everything but it is constantly expanding, what is it expanding into?

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Eli5 if the universe is everything but it is constantly expanding, what is it expanding into?

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Question: can’t we say only the matter/dark matter is expanding? So that the “nothing” that’s between the stars is the same nothing as “outside” the universe just without the radiation and CMB… As I am not aware of there being a hard border of the universe. The big bang created the matter but did it also create the free space it occupies? Of not isn’t it to where it is expanding?

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