Eli5 Why do baseball players & coaches always argue with the referee?

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I always see clips of baseball players arguing with a referee and then getting ejected, but I’ve never once seen a coach or player convince a referee they’re wrong.

Why bother? Surely you know that you’re not gonna change their mind and that you can get ejected pretty easily and that gotta be worse than stifling your ego for a moment just copping the decision.

I’m Australian and don’t really watch baseball so I apologise if any nomenclature is incorrect.

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Anonymous 0 Comments

Even if saying something doesn’t change the prior call, letting the ump know about dissatisfaction might keep them a hair more attentive for the rest of the game.

And a lot of the argumentation happens *after* a player has already been ejected. So they get ejected, and then start yelling and getting in their face. There is no consequence, you’re already out, so that’s when you say your piece.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Technically there’s 3 teams on the field

The 2 competing teams and the umps.

They have to defend their teams and it ads drama for the audience.

It also can change the momentum of the game, it’s all mental, similar to e sports. It’s all mental.

NHL fights are similar. It’s drama, it’s action and can possibly change the energy enough for you to have an advantage.

Anonymous 0 Comments

In baseball, we call them umpires, not referees.

They argue because they think the call was wrong (and, if they argue to the point of being ejected, they’re often right about the call being wrong) and negatively impacts them in the game. You don’t get ejected for arguing the call, unless you go too far or embarrass the umpire. It’s an instinct, I suppose, to try to advocate for yourself when you’re being unfairly punished, like when the umpire calls strike three on a pitch by your ankles that you didn’t swing at. MLB now has replay review, so a manager can actually formally challenge a call they think is bad.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Honestly? Tradition.

Make a show of your distaste for the call and let the guy know he’s made a shit call, in your honest and totally unbiased opinion.

American Baseball strangely has a lot of indefinable little cultural quirks that you really never would understand unless you’ve spent some time in those circles.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Even if saying something doesn’t change the prior call, letting the ump know about dissatisfaction might keep them a hair more attentive for the rest of the game.

And a lot of the argumentation happens *after* a player has already been ejected. So they get ejected, and then start yelling and getting in their face. There is no consequence, you’re already out, so that’s when you say your piece.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Technically there’s 3 teams on the field

The 2 competing teams and the umps.

They have to defend their teams and it ads drama for the audience.

It also can change the momentum of the game, it’s all mental, similar to e sports. It’s all mental.

NHL fights are similar. It’s drama, it’s action and can possibly change the energy enough for you to have an advantage.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Technically there’s 3 teams on the field

The 2 competing teams and the umps.

They have to defend their teams and it ads drama for the audience.

It also can change the momentum of the game, it’s all mental, similar to e sports. It’s all mental.

NHL fights are similar. It’s drama, it’s action and can possibly change the energy enough for you to have an advantage.

Anonymous 0 Comments

In baseball, we call them umpires, not referees.

They argue because they think the call was wrong (and, if they argue to the point of being ejected, they’re often right about the call being wrong) and negatively impacts them in the game. You don’t get ejected for arguing the call, unless you go too far or embarrass the umpire. It’s an instinct, I suppose, to try to advocate for yourself when you’re being unfairly punished, like when the umpire calls strike three on a pitch by your ankles that you didn’t swing at. MLB now has replay review, so a manager can actually formally challenge a call they think is bad.

Anonymous 0 Comments

In baseball, we call them umpires, not referees.

They argue because they think the call was wrong (and, if they argue to the point of being ejected, they’re often right about the call being wrong) and negatively impacts them in the game. You don’t get ejected for arguing the call, unless you go too far or embarrass the umpire. It’s an instinct, I suppose, to try to advocate for yourself when you’re being unfairly punished, like when the umpire calls strike three on a pitch by your ankles that you didn’t swing at. MLB now has replay review, so a manager can actually formally challenge a call they think is bad.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Honestly? Tradition.

Make a show of your distaste for the call and let the guy know he’s made a shit call, in your honest and totally unbiased opinion.

American Baseball strangely has a lot of indefinable little cultural quirks that you really never would understand unless you’ve spent some time in those circles.

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