I always see clips of baseball players arguing with a referee and then getting ejected, but I’ve never once seen a coach or player convince a referee they’re wrong.
Why bother? Surely you know that you’re not gonna change their mind and that you can get ejected pretty easily and that gotta be worse than stifling your ego for a moment just copping the decision.
I’m Australian and don’t really watch baseball so I apologise if any nomenclature is incorrect.
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Maybe because baseball is a show first of all and arguing with the referee is a part of it?
Maybe because baseball is a show first of all and arguing with the referee is a part of it?
In addition to all of the other things that have already been mentioned, baseball has a VERY long season with a LOT of games, so one player getting ejected from a single game isn’t going to have a huge effect. Fans might get angry at a player for losing his cool and getting ejected if the baseball season were like, 20 games, because each game would be so much more valuable. But since the season is 162 games, missing half of a game isn’t that big of a deal.
Also, you may (or may not, I don’t know what you think!) be overestimating how often ejections actually happen because you’re not seeing it in context, you might be seeing YouTube videos of Wildest Ejections of All Time or something. It’s not like players are getting ejected every game for arguing. I just googled and it turns out there is a [blog that tracks ejections](https://www.closecallsports.com/2023/). The season just started last week and so far about 60 games have been played. According to this blog, there has been one player ejection so far (Manny Machado, whose argument with the ump also led to his manager getting ejected). If you’re following a single team over the course of a 162 game season, you should expect to see maybe….5ish ejections a year from arguing with the ump.
Maybe because baseball is a show first of all and arguing with the referee is a part of it?
In addition to all of the other things that have already been mentioned, baseball has a VERY long season with a LOT of games, so one player getting ejected from a single game isn’t going to have a huge effect. Fans might get angry at a player for losing his cool and getting ejected if the baseball season were like, 20 games, because each game would be so much more valuable. But since the season is 162 games, missing half of a game isn’t that big of a deal.
Also, you may (or may not, I don’t know what you think!) be overestimating how often ejections actually happen because you’re not seeing it in context, you might be seeing YouTube videos of Wildest Ejections of All Time or something. It’s not like players are getting ejected every game for arguing. I just googled and it turns out there is a [blog that tracks ejections](https://www.closecallsports.com/2023/). The season just started last week and so far about 60 games have been played. According to this blog, there has been one player ejection so far (Manny Machado, whose argument with the ump also led to his manager getting ejected). If you’re following a single team over the course of a 162 game season, you should expect to see maybe….5ish ejections a year from arguing with the ump.
In addition to all of the other things that have already been mentioned, baseball has a VERY long season with a LOT of games, so one player getting ejected from a single game isn’t going to have a huge effect. Fans might get angry at a player for losing his cool and getting ejected if the baseball season were like, 20 games, because each game would be so much more valuable. But since the season is 162 games, missing half of a game isn’t that big of a deal.
Also, you may (or may not, I don’t know what you think!) be overestimating how often ejections actually happen because you’re not seeing it in context, you might be seeing YouTube videos of Wildest Ejections of All Time or something. It’s not like players are getting ejected every game for arguing. I just googled and it turns out there is a [blog that tracks ejections](https://www.closecallsports.com/2023/). The season just started last week and so far about 60 games have been played. According to this blog, there has been one player ejection so far (Manny Machado, whose argument with the ump also led to his manager getting ejected). If you’re following a single team over the course of a 162 game season, you should expect to see maybe….5ish ejections a year from arguing with the ump.
it’s mostly for show. sure they get upset and try to argue, but ultimately it’s all theater.
not one single person in last 200 years has been so upset they kick dirt at someone, but in baseball these cunts do it every other game.
it’s mostly for show. sure they get upset and try to argue, but ultimately it’s all theater.
not one single person in last 200 years has been so upset they kick dirt at someone, but in baseball these cunts do it every other game.
it’s mostly for show. sure they get upset and try to argue, but ultimately it’s all theater.
not one single person in last 200 years has been so upset they kick dirt at someone, but in baseball these cunts do it every other game.
Humans aren’t perfect and any time you leave something up for interpretation there are going to be errors and poor judgement calls. Ideally we’d want a game that was perfectly refereed, but that will never happen with humans. As things go a referee will almost never (and really never should) change their call once it has been made, especially because someone didn’t like said call. That isn’t the real reason you go up and argue though… You go up and argue to try and change the referee’s mind which happens often honestly even if the call doesn’t change. Because at that point the referee knows a mistake has been made and often times this gives you some wiggle room later.
I play hockey so for me using a hockey example is a little bit easier to explain. Let’s say you have a player who gets called for tripping. A lot of times this is going to be a judgement call like was it intentional or was the defender making a play on the puck? So your team captain goes up to the referee to state his case about how he was making a play and it’s a bad call. Referee see’s his point and starts to doubt his own call but the point stands the penalty is given and the game goes on. Now 10 minutes later we have a situation where the same thing happens except this time it looks more like tripping than before. If it isn’t egregious and obviously a flagrant attempt, the referee is more likely to let this go because he “owes” them for the previous bad call. It’s not a rule set in stone or anything but it’s an attempt for the referee to make the game as “fair” as possible. So if they made a bad call that hurt you they may let you get away with a little more to “even it out” later.
If you don’t go up and argue with the ref then they might not think it was a bad call which means you don’t get the benefit of the doubt later.
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