How come both petrol and diesel cars still exist? Why hasn’t one “won” over the years?

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I’m thinking about similar situations e.g. the war of the currents with AC and DC or the format wars with various disc formats where one technology was deemed superior and “won” in the end, phasing the other one out. How come we still have two competing fuels that are so different?

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Anonymous 0 Comments

Same reason we have iPhone and android, the both do the same thing, but how they do it is different.

Diesel and gasoline engines have several key differences, which affect their performance, efficiency, and suitability for various applications. Here are the main contrasts:

### 1. **Fuel Type and Efficiency**
– **Diesel Engines**: Use diesel fuel, which has a higher energy content per gallon than gasoline. Diesel engines are generally more fuel-efficient, providing better miles per gallon (MPG) due to the higher energy density and the efficiency of the combustion process.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Use gasoline, which has a lower energy density compared to diesel. Gasoline engines are usually less fuel-efficient, offering lower MPG.

### 2. **Combustion Process**
– **Diesel Engines**: Operate on the principle of compression ignition. Air is compressed to a high pressure and temperature, and then diesel fuel is injected into the hot air, causing it to ignite. This process leads to higher thermal efficiency.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Operate on the principle of spark ignition. A mixture of air and gasoline is compressed by the piston, and then a spark plug ignites the mixture. This process is less thermally efficient compared to diesel engines.

### 3. **Torque and Power**
– **Diesel Engines**: Provide higher torque at lower RPMs, making them suitable for heavy-duty applications such as trucks and buses. They are ideal for tasks requiring substantial pulling power.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Typically generate less torque at lower RPMs but can produce higher power at higher RPMs, making them suitable for passenger cars and light-duty vehicles.

### 4. **Emissions**
– **Diesel Engines**: Generally produce more nitrogen oxides (NOx) and particulate matter (PM), which are harmful pollutants. Modern diesel engines are equipped with emission control systems like diesel particulate filters (DPF) and selective catalytic reduction (SCR) to mitigate these emissions.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Produce higher levels of carbon monoxide (CO) and unburned hydrocarbons but generally lower levels of NOx and PM compared to diesel engines. Catalytic converters are used to reduce these emissions.

### 5. **Maintenance and Durability**
– **Diesel Engines**: Typically have a longer lifespan and are more durable due to the robust construction needed to handle higher compression ratios. However, they may require more expensive maintenance and repairs.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Usually have a shorter lifespan compared to diesel engines, but maintenance is often simpler and less expensive.

### 6. **Cost**
– **Diesel Engines**: Generally more expensive upfront due to their complexity and the cost of diesel fuel is often higher. However, the improved fuel efficiency can lead to lower operating costs over time.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Less expensive initially and the cost of gasoline is usually lower than diesel. Operating costs can be higher due to lower fuel efficiency.

### 7. **Noise and Vibration**
– **Diesel Engines**: Tend to be noisier and produce more vibration due to the high compression ratio and combustion process.
– **Gasoline Engines**: Quieter and smoother operation, which is more desirable for passenger vehicles.

In summary, diesel engines are more fuel-efficient, durable, and suitable for heavy-duty applications, while gasoline engines are generally less expensive, quieter, and better suited for lighter vehicles and everyday use.

Anonymous 0 Comments

The two fuels are better at different things. A diesel engine is better in a large, more expensive vehicle that needs powerful low end torque to move heavy loads. Gasoline is better in a smaller, less expensive vehicle that needs to move relatively light loads. The market for vehicles includes both these extremes and one fuel type for everything would be needlessly restrictive. There is a reason you don’t see very many gasoline-powered semi-trailer trucks and small diesel passenger cars are a niche, questionable product.

Another thing to consider is that when you take crude oil out of the ground and start separating out its components you are going to get both gasoline and diesel along the way. If one or the other of those fuels isn’t being burned in automobiles then what else do you do with it? The excess production would drive prices down for that fuel type, and suddenly it makes a lot of sense to build some automobiles to use the cheap available fuel.

Anonymous 0 Comments

In addition to the good answers given about diesel and petrol both being having different uses, you referenced AC vs. DC power, suggesting that AC “won.”

Like the petrol v. diesel answer, DC is similarly used in many things, including cell phones, computers, LED lights, batteries, and more. Yes, power outlets in the wall supply AC, but that block in your computer’s power cord, or the little thing you plug into the wall that your phone’s USB cable connects to are adapters that convert the AC power to DC. Again, different uses for different needs.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Also worth mentioning that diesel is basically a byproduct while making gasoline.  So in a world where we decided to only use gas we would have billions of gallons of diesel that nobody would have a use for until it got so cheap that someone would decide “we should run vehicles with that instead of this expensive gasoline. “

Anonymous 0 Comments

Petrol and diesel are both used because of their distinct properties and applications. Petrol engines are preferred for passenger cars due to their smooth operation, higher RPMs, and faster acceleration, making them ideal for lighter vehicles. Diesel engines, known for their fuel efficiency and high torque at low RPMs, are favored for heavy-duty applications like trucks and buses, as they are more efficient over long distances.

The infrastructure for both fuels is well-established globally, supporting diverse vehicle needs. Consumer preferences and regional demands also influence the choice between petrol and diesel, with some areas favoring diesel for economic reasons and government policies. Additionally, fuel efficiency and emissions play a role; diesel has higher energy density, making it more fuel-efficient for heavy vehicles, while modern emission control technologies have made diesel engines cleaner.

Economic and policy factors, such as fuel taxes and subsidies, impact the choice between the two fuels. Petrol engines are generally preferred for personal and urban driving due to their quieter operation and better performance in stop-and-go traffic. Diesel engines are preferred for commercial and heavy-duty vehicles due to their efficiency and towing capabilities.

While the rise of electric vehicles (EVs) and hybrids aims to reduce reliance on fossil fuels, petrol and diesel will continue to coexist until EV infrastructure and technology mature, reflecting their complementary strengths and the specific requirements of different vehicle types and applications.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Just a quick point, AC didn’t win over DC or vice versa.

House supplies might be AC, but a **shocking** number of devices in the house / car / boat / plan are still running DC internally.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Diesel is better for engines that run mostly in a steady state, like trucks, semis and trains. Gasoline is better in stop-n-go applications, like most passenger cars.

In terms of passenger car use, gasoline has almost completely won out. Conversely, the same is true for diesel in commercial/industrial usages.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Diesel and gasoline beat out kerosene which was the original liquid fuel of choice. Though kerosene is really just a lighter grade of diesel. …and kerosene is still basically what makes up jet fuel.

Also, both these engine technologies are probably done as standalone units, as hybrid technology now offers substantial upgrades on lifespan and efficiency.

Anonymous 0 Comments

EV will win out. Soon you will have $20k-$25k EVs, and then you will have EVs with 500 mile range, then 1000 mile range. At that point, gas stations will slowly disappear, and gas cars will disappear faster because it’s hard to find places to refill. They’re safe at least til 2050 though.