How do scalpers actually get all the tickets faster than the average consumer?
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Okay so this is how it works essentially. I used to use bots to resell sneakers to make money back in college. There are different kind of bots depending on the site. I can’t speak for ticket sites but for sneakers some sites include: Shopify(shoe palace, kith), yeezysupply, footsites(footlocker, champs). The bot will need an email for captcha solving. There are 2 types that are usually used to trick bots. Regular captcha which is “click on three stop signs”. The other type are Hcaptch where you are asked a question and have to type out the answer. The latter is very a
Hard to automate compared to the regular. So you have to manually solve the hcapcha whereas you can outsource the regular captcha to captcha farms in other countries for like 10 cents for 100 clicks. The more “trust worthy” your email is the easier the captcha is. But some sites may just use both types so you have a regular captcha to solve and hcapcha. All this happens in the bot window.
Trust worthy emails are just email accounts that are used frequently over years. Typically gmails works best because you can login and watch YouTube videos and general searching. You will then need proxies which are just IP addresses so when you try to check out the website thinks your attempts are all coming from different devices. Some sites block your device outright which makes it impossible to get on that website from that specific device. But back to proxies = IP addresses that can be purchased in bulk by the GB from Internet providers.
There’s a lot of them but they can be boiled down to two types data center ips (dc) and residential isp’s. DC proxies belong to big data centers that are used as servers, like AWS. Residential proxies are IP addresses that would belong to ip addresses in residential areas and ping from local neighborhoods too. Usually Dc proxies are faster than resi proxies. Also it’s usually best to get proxies on servers near the same servers that run the website you’re trynna bot. Virginia is where alot of the servers are located.
So you have your bot, proxies, emails and credit card info. You fill out a profile which has your shipping/billing info. Make hundreds or thousands of tasks which are just tabs opening the site trying to check out with your profile info in the background using chromium. If you get a captcha then a window will display it for you to solve. You will need a beefed up computer or run a server. AWS offered very powerful servers for like 8cents per hour. The beefier the server the more expensive and the more tasks you can run. The most expensive server I’ve ran was $8/hr and running 6,500 tasks.
If you’re successful your email will have a confirmation email of the order. It should be noted that botting tickets is illegal vs sneakers and electrics. I don’t really know why it’s something with the terms and conditions I believe. So more than likely theres something shadier happening in the background
Some bots, and proxies:
Shopify bots: wrath, mekaio, valor
Footsites: kodai, wrath
Ys: mekaio, wrath, noble
Supreme clothing bots: mekpreme, Velox
Proxies: AYCD proxies, oculus proxies and live proxies are the best of the best
$$: bots can typically Range from $50-$6000. At the height of the pandemic bots were so in demand they were bot keys being sold for $10k a key.
You a king gizz fan too?
I did ticket brokering for years until it went to 13 year old kids in South Korea or some other foreign country developing software that would allow you to get in before everyone else but would cost over $100,000 for the software. That’s when I got out. But of what I knew before that, one of the main contingencies of the tickets is who’s going to get some before they even go on sale to the general public. The bands Fan Club would get a block of tickets set aside for them. The band’s manager would come in and set aside some for the bands friends and family as would their record label people (typically called Production Seats). Sometimes Ticket Brokers would come in too and buy a big block of tickets for themselves that were usually paid for at an extra cost, knowing that they were for resale purposes. Then Ticketmaster would take all the rest. They of course would be great seats and were made a deal w the bands manager to upgrade a bunch of the best seats to be sold as PLATINUM tickets. The bands make a cut off these tickets, in many cases. Since bands make very little money off of album sales, they now make a bigger cut of money off their ticket sales.
Everyone will hate to hear this but ticket prices to see a live, popular band are severely underpriced and are artificially deflated. What you are seeing now are real, market driven prices. Imagine a commodity that is desired by tens of millions but can only be consumed by 60,000 at a time, and only has a few opportunities to happen. People were lucky that 65 bucks even ever happened.
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