So many youtube reactors post only 10 minutes of movie footage as fair use and point to sites like Patreon to watch their full-length reactions, but how is that not a copyright infringement? Does paywalling copyrighted content let them get away with it?
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Sites have to take down user-contributed infringing content *when the copyright owner reports it*. The paywall makes it more difficult to see, and therefore more difficult to repost.
Sites have to take down user-contributed infringing content *when the copyright owner reports it*. The paywall makes it more difficult to see, and therefore more difficult to repost.
There are multiple things going on here:
1. “Fair use,” is kind of vague, and allows for “transformative content.” This allows for things like reviews and parodies i.e. you are taking the original material and adding your own value to it. Does a person adding themselves to the bottom corner of the screen and occasionally laughing/commenting count as transformative? Most would say no, but it’s still somewhat subjective meaning one site might count it as transformative and the other might not
2. In order to get something taken down, the content that infringes on copyright actually needs to be *detected* by either the original copyright holder, or some automated detection system. It’s likely the people referring their viewers to Patron to watch movies just found a loophole where Patreon doesn’t automatically scan for copyrighted content. It’s the same reason people upload video game leaks to PornHub, because PornHub doesn’t have a system to automatically scan for copyrighted content, so taking down copyright infringing videos might be harder on certain websites than others.
There are multiple things going on here:
1. “Fair use,” is kind of vague, and allows for “transformative content.” This allows for things like reviews and parodies i.e. you are taking the original material and adding your own value to it. Does a person adding themselves to the bottom corner of the screen and occasionally laughing/commenting count as transformative? Most would say no, but it’s still somewhat subjective meaning one site might count it as transformative and the other might not
2. In order to get something taken down, the content that infringes on copyright actually needs to be *detected* by either the original copyright holder, or some automated detection system. It’s likely the people referring their viewers to Patron to watch movies just found a loophole where Patreon doesn’t automatically scan for copyrighted content. It’s the same reason people upload video game leaks to PornHub, because PornHub doesn’t have a system to automatically scan for copyrighted content, so taking down copyright infringing videos might be harder on certain websites than others.
Paywalling the content does, in a roundabout sort of way, let them get away with it. Copyright infringement is not something that is automatically punished by default. The copyright holder has to report it and want to deal with it. Youtube and other sites do automate copyright detection, but it is not legally required to do so.
You can 100% get in trouble for copyright infringement on Patreon, but unless the copyright holder pays for your Patreon they can’t report it and have it taken care of.
That said, I know there are companies that will scour the internet for copyright infringement on behalf of their customers and they will absolutely be willing to pay for access to a Patreon to do it.
Paywalling the content does, in a roundabout sort of way, let them get away with it. Copyright infringement is not something that is automatically punished by default. The copyright holder has to report it and want to deal with it. Youtube and other sites do automate copyright detection, but it is not legally required to do so.
You can 100% get in trouble for copyright infringement on Patreon, but unless the copyright holder pays for your Patreon they can’t report it and have it taken care of.
That said, I know there are companies that will scour the internet for copyright infringement on behalf of their customers and they will absolutely be willing to pay for access to a Patreon to do it.
Often the full length reactions are in a “watch along” format in which the audience requires their own copy of the copyrighted material
The copyrighted material is either not there at all or blurred to the point where scene changes are the only thing you can make out. The creator posts a timer for the audience to sync up their playback
Often the full length reactions are in a “watch along” format in which the audience requires their own copy of the copyrighted material
The copyrighted material is either not there at all or blurred to the point where scene changes are the only thing you can make out. The creator posts a timer for the audience to sync up their playback
Patreon operates under the “Safe Harbor” rules in copyright laws.
Essentially, they are are not responsible for the content their users upload.
If someone reports a copyright claim then Patreon has a responsibility to investigate that and act accordingly but they only have to do that IF someone files a claim.
Patreon operates under the “Safe Harbor” rules in copyright laws.
Essentially, they are are not responsible for the content their users upload.
If someone reports a copyright claim then Patreon has a responsibility to investigate that and act accordingly but they only have to do that IF someone files a claim.
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