How exactly do “permanent records” work? Do they actually exist, especially beyond school?
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“permanent records” aren’t totally a myth. They sometimes are important when applying for college. Other than that, nobody will ever see them.
Back in the day, highschool transcripts almost always included information about a student’s disciplinary record. That’s becoming less common in recent years. but a majority of colleges (at least half), still look at high school displinary records. Nowadays, many colleges don’t really want to know about disciplinary records, and some high schools don’t provide them to colleges.
So the real answer is: It depends on where you went to high school, and which colleges you are applying to.
It’s becoming a bit of a controversial subject, and there is a lot of debate going on about whether colleges should or should not ask for disciplinary records. Starting in 2021, the common application for colleges no longer asks about high school disciplinary records. But individual colleges can still ask about them.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2020/10/05/common-app-stop-asking-students-about-their-high-school-disciplinary
“permanent records” aren’t totally a myth. They sometimes are important when applying for college. Other than that, nobody will ever see them.
Back in the day, highschool transcripts almost always included information about a student’s disciplinary record. That’s becoming less common in recent years. but a majority of colleges (at least half), still look at high school displinary records. Nowadays, many colleges don’t really want to know about disciplinary records, and some high schools don’t provide them to colleges.
So the real answer is: It depends on where you went to high school, and which colleges you are applying to.
It’s becoming a bit of a controversial subject, and there is a lot of debate going on about whether colleges should or should not ask for disciplinary records. Starting in 2021, the common application for colleges no longer asks about high school disciplinary records. But individual colleges can still ask about them.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2020/10/05/common-app-stop-asking-students-about-their-high-school-disciplinary
They are permanent, but they are also siloed. I.e. your school record is permanent at best inside that state, possibly only within that district. With work it’s even more siloed, it’s likely limited to just that company, even partner companies likely don’t have access/don’t look at your record with the other.
The only permanent record that you should truly be concerned with is your record with the state/federal governments.
Hah! No.
Once you leave primary/secondary school, nobody cares how many times you got written up for talking in the hall or pranking the vice principal, unless you got charged with a criminal offense (and usually not even then, as minors’ records are typically sealed).
It’s a scare tactic to keep you in line. It only matters if you have to change schools – then, a scholastic disciplinary record can a) bias officials at the new school against you or b) cause them to decline an inter-district transfer request or similar.
Your grades, activities, standardized test scores etc matter if you’re worried about college admissions, though.
They are permanent, but they are also siloed. I.e. your school record is permanent at best inside that state, possibly only within that district. With work it’s even more siloed, it’s likely limited to just that company, even partner companies likely don’t have access/don’t look at your record with the other.
The only permanent record that you should truly be concerned with is your record with the state/federal governments.
Since no one really answered your question – beyond school it is your criminal record. In the USA, any misdemeanors or felonies stay on your record unless expunged (thrown out). Felonies being the worst as they prevent you from owning firearms, voting in some states, and will make getting a job and housing incredibly difficult.
Whenever you see the phrase “background check”, this is what they are referring to. A landlord or employer is checking your “permanent record”.
Hah! No.
Once you leave primary/secondary school, nobody cares how many times you got written up for talking in the hall or pranking the vice principal, unless you got charged with a criminal offense (and usually not even then, as minors’ records are typically sealed).
It’s a scare tactic to keep you in line. It only matters if you have to change schools – then, a scholastic disciplinary record can a) bias officials at the new school against you or b) cause them to decline an inter-district transfer request or similar.
Your grades, activities, standardized test scores etc matter if you’re worried about college admissions, though.
They are permanent, but they are also siloed. I.e. your school record is permanent at best inside that state, possibly only within that district. With work it’s even more siloed, it’s likely limited to just that company, even partner companies likely don’t have access/don’t look at your record with the other.
The only permanent record that you should truly be concerned with is your record with the state/federal governments.
Since no one really answered your question – beyond school it is your criminal record. In the USA, any misdemeanors or felonies stay on your record unless expunged (thrown out). Felonies being the worst as they prevent you from owning firearms, voting in some states, and will make getting a job and housing incredibly difficult.
Whenever you see the phrase “background check”, this is what they are referring to. A landlord or employer is checking your “permanent record”.
Hah! No.
Once you leave primary/secondary school, nobody cares how many times you got written up for talking in the hall or pranking the vice principal, unless you got charged with a criminal offense (and usually not even then, as minors’ records are typically sealed).
It’s a scare tactic to keep you in line. It only matters if you have to change schools – then, a scholastic disciplinary record can a) bias officials at the new school against you or b) cause them to decline an inter-district transfer request or similar.
Your grades, activities, standardized test scores etc matter if you’re worried about college admissions, though.
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