How is hallucinating any different from regular thinking?

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Not delusions(where you believe something is real that isn’t), hallucinations specifically.

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Ok so anecdotal example: when I was a teenager I was sick with something and took nyquil. After I took it I lied down in bed and I saw bugs crawling all up the walls of my room despite knowing they weren’t there, and forced myself to shut my eyes and go to sleep. Sometimes people can distinguish between “ok im clearly hallucinating” and sometimes they can’t and wind up doing crazy shit (i.e. some people take angel dust and jump off a building thinking they have wings and can fly)

Some of the memories I have are from recurring places in dreams, and I can recall those places I’ve dreamt of just as clearly as other memories I recall in “real life”

If you’re hallucinating, your brain isn’t working normally–you are seeing or hearing things that aren’t there. Depending on the circumstances of what is causing the hallucinations, it can be very convincing. Mild hallucinations, you might see things moving around abnormally. There are “trip simulation” videos on YouTube where you stare at the screen that will give you a feel of this. With extreme hallucinations, your mind is in a whole different world–“I thought I was a zipper.”

Because hallucinations are experiencing sensory input that doesn’t actually exist, thinking doesn’t make you see/hear/feel/etc. things that don’t exist. Not really sure how this is even a question.

Hallucinations are something that you see/feel/hear that isn’t actually there, delusions are whether or not you believe they are real.

Thoughts are to delusions as senses are to hallucinations. Hallucinations are an incorrect interpretation of sensory input by the parts of your brain meant to interpret the senses. Seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, or feeling something that isn’t there comes before thinking about the thing you’re sensing.

This is an outstanding question. I can’t say with any certainty that I am not hallucinating and or dreaming at any given moment. I cannot with certainity say that everyone I meet exist. I suppose we fall back onthe old I think, therefore I am. Or if you rather, I am, therefore I think.
Edit: I’m completely mad. Take everything I say with several grains of salt or sugar, to taste.

Hallucinating is like watching the television. Thinking is like watching the television without turning it on first.

Am wordy as hell go straight to the TLDR if you aren’t a fkn nerd.

I don’t think they are different from regular [not thinking] processing of sensory input. The difference – and this can be seen with brain imaging/eegs and whatnot – is that the sensory input being processed didn’t come from the sensory organs.

So when you hear a voice with your ears, they pass it to your brain and it gets soaked up into the broad processing process where you might consciously notice it, you might not, etc. My understanding is scientists have ways of tracking this impulse from ear nerves to dissipation?(for lack of a better word) into other parts of the brain.

But when a schizophrenic hallucinates (they will typically be delusional when this is happening, but delusion is a different process neurologically and my guess is it is significantly more complicated than hallucination) researchers can see brain activity consistent with processing sensory input from the ears (or eyes or nerves I assume depending on hallucination), but they cannot see brain activity consistent with sensory input from the ears. This can happen with some forms of schizophrenia for complicated and incompletely understood reasons, can happen in chemical withdrawal, can happen when chemicals that act on the brain are in ur system, sleep deprivation causes mild auditories, lots of stuff.

TLDR: senses involve your brain processing input (neurological impulses) it receives from sensory organs. Hallucinations involve your brain processing input in similar ways, but that input did not come from sensory organs.

IF you are referring to a different kind of vaguely auditory hallucination wherein you hallucinate your own internal monologue lmk and I will run my mouth theorizing about that one all damn night. But that kind seems categorically different from auditory hallucinations as they are typically understood.

EDIT: This info comes from zillions of sources about neurology I won’t remember but the major one that got me to respond to this question was a Stanford lecture from Robert somethingSky titled “Schizophrenia,” you’ll find it if you google stanford lecture schizophrenia robert” if you haven’t already seen it because the algorithm likes it. Long lecture but it’s like my answer but a) right b) well put c) thoroughly researched. Everything you don’t get from me basically lol

LI5: Our brains are making things up.

LI6: Our brains typically *process* sensory experiences caused by stimulation of sensory organs. When hallucinating, our brains *perceive* sensory experiences without sensory organ stimulation. I don’t know that the entire underlying cause has been determined, but there’s a reduction in signaling between neurons and their firing patterns are different. We’re receiving the same sensory information, we just aren’t processing it correctly.

really depends what u mean. auditory hallucinations most likely will not be in the voice of ur internal monologue – and if they are in the voice of ur internal monologue and ur saying things that are untrue, then those are delusions, if u believe them. when ur saying things in ur head like “oh i wonder what the difference in this train of thought and a hallucination is” then thats a thought. if u hear a voice telling u michael jackson wants u to kill ur dog, thats a hallucination. usually

Ok…. I see OP is having a lot of trouble with understanding their own question.

Let’s do an analogy.

Regular thinking is like reading a novel.

A hallucination is like watching a movie.

A delusion is going to a convention and thinking that the actors from the movie are actually the characters.

Imagine you are stranded in the desert. Thirst sets in and you start hallucinating and seeing mirages. You are desperately scanning the horizon for some way to survive and monkey brain pattern finding says oh hey that looks like it might be an oasis up ahead! But, its still pretty early on in this expedition and you know its hella unlikely its actually an oasis. The hallucination is the sensory input being wack. But your mental state and ability to work it out keeps it from being a delusion.

Fast forward a bit and the thirst is killing you. Now its getting hard to think and you start getting more delirious. Now when you see another mirage, you are convinced it must surely be an oasis! You run up and pool a scaling handful of sand up to your mouth and it feels cool as ice as you sip back a burning gulp of sand. When you stop having the mental capacity to distinguish the erroneous sensory input, it becomes a delusion. Its still a hallucination, it doesnt actually exist, but you are delusional and can’t tell the difference anymore.

I believe I been through both on a regular basis, but some consider me thinking too much. Do I need to see a brain doctor?

As long as you know that hallucinations are just that (for example, you know you took LSD) then there isn’t much difference between that and just imagination.

Your brain is creating something that isn’t there, but you could say the same about making up a story in your head deliberately.

The biggest difference really is that hallucinations are uncontrolled. Your brain is coming up with new ideas and visions, sometimes strongly enough that they overwhelm your normal perception.

Take some LSD and you will know yourself. In this particular case there are some hallucinations that normally aren’t possible – for example strong synesthesia. Imagine listening to music and feeling that *the music* is wet and sticky. Does it sound weird? It is, very much so.

A hallucination is a sensory thing. Like a dream where you “see” things in your mind that aren’t really there, a hallucination is like a dream your mind made up that hits your senses when you are conscious therefore creating the illusion that it is there.

It can hit all 5 at once (typically schizophrenia)
Maybe it just hits your sense of vision (seeing things that only your mind thinks is there)
Maybe it hits your sense of touch (ahh there’s bugs on me I feel it)
Maybe it hits your hearing (I know I can hear someone talking from my closet every night and we have convos)

So hallucinations are generally the result of a brain disorder, or so they call it lol. Could be withdrawal, lack of sleep, schizophrenia, and also more recently terminal illnesses. In this case, a hallucination can also be your minds way of processing information that may be too extreme and abrupt for your emotions and body to handle at that time, therefore the information shoots to your senses and people experience that information through that of a hallucination.

I tried to explain it in a way that would make sense lol it’s actually a really cool topic to get into! Some people actually enjoy their hallucinations as long as they are aware that it is in fact just your minds way of processing information by way of your 5 senses. Hope that helps!

As someone with Schitzophrenia yes hallucinating is definitely different than regular thinking. Think of hallucinations like a movie, these hallucinations for me happen randomly and I see it in front of my vision, like it’s actually there. Whereas regular thinking it’s like being in the back of your mind and not seeing it as if it was actually there.