how is the brain able to give us images when we are imagining something?

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how is the brain able to give us images when we are imagining something?

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Anonymous 0 Comments

For some people… not so much for those of us with [Aphantasia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia) 🙁

Anonymous 0 Comments

So you know you’ve seen and perceived things in the past, right? When that happened, certain circuits of neurons lit up in your brain.

When you imagine something, some of those similar circuits light up, evoking a less concrete representation than when you were perceiving it directly.

This is ELI5, so there’s obviously more detail to this, but this is the gist.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Many of us can’t see anything in our minds eye, and I’m starting to think I’m one of them

Of course I can imagine anything I want to. But closing my eyes and trying to visually see or remember something? Not happening.

Maybe that’s why I suck so much at drawing things. I’ve taken a few classes and practiced things like perspective and that helps when I’ve got an idea in mind, but I can’t SEE anything at all if I close my eyes and think of an orange, or a train, or a landscape I want to paint.

I don’t think people vividly hallucinate what they imagine (or maybe?) but the way it is described is… SOMETHING when I feel my imagination is all I have, no visuals.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Think of the brain like your mobile phone’s processor. The processor can either get take a picture using the camera hardware, or it can pull up an image from the SD card.

At the end of the day, “seeing” happens in the brain, and it doesn’t really care where the data comes from.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Alright neuroscience student here just finished my masters degree (looking for a PhD tutor if any takers reading this).

So, when you imagine something you are not actually seeing the thing, you are remembering something at least similar that you have seen already and is already stored in your memory. That’s why you can only imagine things that you know (example: you know a tree and the color red so you can imagine a red tree).

We don’t really know much about memory storage, it seems like memories are stored in synapses (connection between neurons) all over the brain.

Now, when we see something the raw data comes through the eyes to a “basic” processing area (occipital cortex) and more complex information like shape or meaning (name of the thing) is processed in temporal cortex (not 100% sure if I got the right name).

Neuroimage studies show that when we think of something this complex area activates in the same place as if we actually saw the thing (just more lightly). Some other synapses related to memories involving the thing also activate. Something similar would happen if I said: imagine I touched your arm.

So when you imagine you “see” the thing probably because your brain is activating in a similar way as if you were actually seeing it.

Like you were five: you don’t see it, it’s a memory and you can form the image in your head because your brain activates the “thing” related areas of your brain.

Anonymous 0 Comments

The visual system of the brain is a very layered system. The early layers detect things like brightness and edges. This gradually gets built up into things like basic shapes, and depth, and contours, and then into recognizable items. These recognizable items become recognizable simply due to the repetitive nature of your exposure to them; i.e. if I show you a random shape enough times, it is no longer ‘random’ but rather becomes ‘that one shape’ in your mind.

Now, let’s take a recognizable item, say a rose. This rose has many things associated with it. Think of the rose itself as the center hub in a bicycle wheel… each spoke might extend to something that you associate with the rose; the smell, the color, your first girlfriend, thorns, gardening, the tango.

Of course, this wheel was also not ‘built in’, but rather ‘built’. What I mean by that, is that these associations also form over time, over experiences. This happens when neurons ‘fire together’. This is called Hebbian learning. So, when I visually see the rose, and I also smell it, these two things get bound together: associated. The more this happens, the stronger this bond becomes, and the more likely that one will ‘appear’ in consciousness when the other is imagined or represented in some way.

Anyway, back to this rose.

Now, you have probably been imagining this rose. Which is a funny way to get to the point of your question. It makes sense that reading about a rose, and seeing the word ‘rose’, would also be part of this bicycle wheel. So, it also makes sense that your brain would have stored some ‘template’ for what I am writing about. This makes sense, so that YOU can make sense of the world.

What is important to think about and remember here, is that your mental imagery of the rose is exactly that… it is YOUR mental imagery. You and I might have very different ‘roses’. If I lived in a place that normally had white roses, like the ones my mother grows, well then I might be imagining a white rose, while you are imagining a red rose.

In any case, the imagination is probably driven from the ‘top’ (i.e. high level process) down to the low level (i.e. lower visual areas). I imagine (haha) that the concept is first activated, i.e. let me think of a rose, and then this activates a chain of neural activity which kind of ‘backward’ activates all of the visual connections which make up your ‘template’ rose.

Remember, ‘neurons that fire together wire together’. This means, every time you see a rose, it will have general characteristics. Maybe it has a long stem, and then a big round top. So, the neurons which encode for long stems and round tops are firing every time you see a rose. Then, it branches into times where you saw white ones, and red ones, and yellow ones. You can imagine each of them, I am sure. It is like walking down a path, and you can deviate left into the neural activation for the white rose, or straight ahead for red, or maybe to the right for the yellow one.

Are you simply changing the color? Or does the form change too? There are really interesting questions to think about this topic, and it is a fascinating topic indeed. In any case, if you asked me (which, in some way, you did), I would attribute the imaginative process to these ‘association wheels’ combined with a Hebbian learning process which creates networks for repeated experiences. Imagination is then the calling up of these pre-established networks.

I hope that could give a little insight! I am sure a researcher focusing on imagination could give an even better answer, and perhaps refute or confirm some of the things I am saying, but these are my thoughts on the topic.

Source: am Neuroscientist.