My girlfriend and I talked about sex last night and she told me that virginity is only a myth which refers to whether you have done it or not. She explains that it is only just an idea and it wouldn’t be possible to determine physically whether a woman had intercourse or not. The reason is that the hymen heals back and the vagina comes back to its natural shape even though it’s gone through intercourse or like giving birth.Some articles say to that hymen looks and has different forms in which it depends for every person. I can’t find anything on the net (or I just suck at finding) articles about how doing it for the first time vs second time would make a difference. I know that at the end of the day, it’s whether you both enjoyed it and did it with the person you wanted the most. But I am curious whether there would be a difference between doing it the first time and the second time, excluding the fact that the second time you know how to perform better and have the knowledge of what to do, unlike before.
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Yup it is a myth. Nothing is “taken” from the girl when you “take her virginity”. It is a social construct to degrade women and or explain the ideology of having sex for the first time. Basically the more you do it the more you get used to it,And there is no way to find out if you’re a virgin or not by examining the parts. Lol
Some hymens are more pronounced than others. So no you can’t tell for every girl and regardless a tampon can break your hymen and you usually have a period for awhile before you have sex.
A virgin is someone who hasn’t had sexual relations. Usually that means intercourse, but not always.
Because the definition of virginity varies amongst different cultures, groups, sexual orientations or individuals, it is a social construct. But once you define what it means, you can make an objective assessment as to whether someone is a virgin or not based on their sexual history (assuming they are honest). It may just be a label that people assign rather than a tangible thing, but that’s not what “myth” means.
There are certain myths *surrounding* virginity though, such as whether it affects one’s psychology or physiology. Those specific claims would have to be evaluated on a case by case basis. Medically speaking there are certain physiological signs to indicate if a person has engaged (or not) in various types of sexual activity *recently*, and whether or not it was likely consensual. These types of forensic tests aren’t 100% definitive, but they’re accurate enough to be used as evidence in criminal trials.
But there are also several myths about the relationship between the hymen and virginity, or that somehow a woman’s body is “ruined” after having intercourse the first time or after many times. Many of these myths have no basis in science, and are steeped in sexism or the idea of a woman being a man’s property. Specifically, no, there is no merit to the idea that under normal circumstances, intercourse should physically be any different between the first, second, or 1000th time for either participant.
There are plenty of online medical resources that can dispel any misconceptions, but if you’re having trouble finding answers it may be best to speak to your partner directly or a medical professional.
While I suppose it’s possible to combine enough information about a woman to get a strong correlation between those weighted factors and whether or not she’s had sex, virginity is primarily a social convention.
In pre-modern times, your daughter showing up pregnant without a husband was a huge financial hit since it generally meant you were stuck supporting both her and her offspring indefinitely. This gave you a strong incentive to dissuade her from having sex until a contract with a prospective suitor had been arranged.
For clarification ‘virginity’ is not a myth. The state of the hymen being any indication of it, is.
Virginity isn’t a myth in the sense that it’s a word to describe people who haven’t had sex. But it’s association with women’s “purity” is traditionally… repressive. Nor can one examine a hymen to know if someone is a virgin or not.
However, that’s not because it grows back. It doesn’t. But different women have different amounts of tissue, so it can cover a larger or smaller area. It then normally stretches out or thins during sex. Or riding a bike. Or using a tampon. Or any number of other activities, which is why it’s a shitty metric for virginity.
As for the vagina, it’s an elastic organ, so activity doesn’t change it. The myth of women getting “loose” from having sex is just that.
As for whether they’re a difference between the first or second time… not really? Excepting being better at it and thus able to enjoy it more.
Myth! Hymens come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, and can be injured by a number of activities. Furthermore, some women don’t experience injury to their hymen even during sex. Basically, while some women do experience a spot of blood upon their first experience with intercourse, there are so many variables that a physical exam is an extremely unreliable indicator of sexual experience. It’s a shame this myth persists, because in some societies (including some parts of western society) women are subjected to “virginity exams” with high stakes.
For men, i dont think you can tell the difference just from the penis alone. For women, if they get a thorough examination relatively soon after, they will be able to see that there was “stuff” going on there, but if its been long enough you wouldnt be able to tell.
In regards to the hymen, it depends. For some women it doesnt break at all, and stays perfectly in tact, and for others it does. Ive also heard that some women are born without one, but id need to double check on that
If the hymen is not fully estrogenated, it can be torn or damaged, and that damaged can be observed.
After estrogenation, it is pretty useless. They can tear from a variety of reasons, they can stretch around an object and not tear.
Most “virginal” bleeding is actually a torn posterior fourchette, and those can heal and retear.
Virginity really, truly is a ridiculous construct and cannot reliably be determined after puberty. (Prior to puberty, inferences can be drawn about damage to the hymen, but they’re not entirely conclusive either.)
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