Is there a fundamental physical limitation to the amount of space needed to contain a single bit?

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Is there a fundamental physical limitation to the amount of space needed to contain a single bit?

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Anonymous 0 Comments

A bit could be encoded on something like the spin of an atomic particle…particles which could be near pin-points in space. So no, I would not say there is a physical limitation (ie you need at least x amount of space to encode a bit). However once you’re getting down at the atomic level now you also have to deal with weird quantum effects such as the bit randomly changing or measuring the bit causing it to change…

Anonymous 0 Comments

A bit is a mathematical concept, which can be represented by anything that can have two states. In theory, a bit can be represented by a single atom or even an electron.

Anonymous 0 Comments

In quantum computing a qubit can be represented by the spin of an electron or the polarization of a photon. I don’t believe that “size of a photon” means anything, much less “size of the polarization of a photon”.

Anonymous 0 Comments

If we can write to it, and read from it, and it can be in at least 2 states, it can be thought of as a bit. If we can consistently and reliable represent it in more states we can use it to represent multiple bits.

With current technology we can reliably (though not easily or cheaply) manipulate things on the atomic scale in such a way that we could read and write data that way. Getting below the atomic scale might be tough as you start to run into quantum effects, but in theory if we could set and read the states of quarks and leptons that would be even tinier storage.

Anonymous 0 Comments

This is a bit ill-stated as a single bit can be stored in effectively zero space. Except that having zero space is not even a meaningful thing, you cannot just cut away the universe. A better question to ask is thus: how much information can be stored in a given volume of space?

Maybe unexpectedly, it turns out that the limit is the point where (information) density becomes so high, the volume turns into a black hole (which ironically seals all that information away forever). And counter-intuitively, this means that the maximal amount of information in a sphere is proportional to its _surface_, not the volume!

Lets finally quantify things a bit: a cubic centimeter of spherical volume can theoretically store about 10^^66 bits of data. [Some stackexchange discussion with all the gory details](https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/2281/maximum-theoretical-data-density).

Anonymous 0 Comments

Yes, or so it is believed. To represent a bit, you need something that can have two states. We currently believe (or that is my understanding) that there are indivisible fundamental particles, so however much space they take up is how much space you need to contain a single bit of information.

Another way to look at this is that the amount of soace you need to physically store a bit of information is limited by the planck constant, as that limits how close together you can pack particles.

This is, of course, highly theoretical, there are other limits to computation, and most of them are a lot more present than the limit on density of integration.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Follow up question to this: Often I see the answer to this question as how many particles could be fit into a space. The information density is the number of particles, (or their absence), with specific areas corresponding to specific bits – the presence of a particle being a 1 where the absence is 0.

Isn’t it possible that more information could be stored in a single particle when you take into consideration its orientation and exact placement? What about quantifying its direction of travel and using that as information? I propose that a single particle could have a very large (infinite?) amount of data – it’s existence or non existence; X, Y, Z locations in a given space; X’, Y’,Z’ rotation; linear momentum; and rotational momentum.

Teach me how I am wrong.