I just keep hearing “they have all your data” and I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean.
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Edit: thanks to everyone whos contributed, although I still remain confused and in disbelief over some of the things in the comments, I feel like I have a better grasp on everything and I hope some more people were able to learn from this post as well.
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Its just a database of every piece of information we gave the government, connected to a database of everything that can be connected to remotely.
So say they type your name into the database, all of a sudden they are a few clicks away from live web cam footage, they can read every text, every key you’ve typed on your phone.
it is enough to set up a timeline and create a portfolio of every single thing you have ever done in front of a smart device.
This is all highly illegal and against the constitution, but what are you gonna do about it?
Is it assumed that pretty much all online queries and traffic is documented and indexed by person? Could an individual decide to run for office in 10 years and have some random spook show up with evidence of incriminating things they or their loved ones did online years ago and then use that as leverage?
I’ve been assuming for the last decade that all of our elected figures that do crazy or unconscionable things do so because someone out there has access to this type of leverage.
Not only did the Snowden leaks reveal that the US government was spying on US citizens in illegal ways, it revealed that our government was using absolutely any conceivable means of skirting its own rules to try and justify its actions.
For example, when the government discovered that some of the tapped phones it was distributing were ending up in the hands of US citizens, which it doesn’t have the authority to spy on, it simply outsourced the monitoring of those phones to the Australian government and received that intel “from an allied resource.”
Literally, our government pays allied governments to spy on us and accepts that intel from them as “allied intel” because that, technically, gets around the rules about our government not spying on its own citizens.
Extra fun fact: The prison in Guantanamo Bay was started because a federal judge once noted that if we had a prison outside of the US then we wouldn’t have to follow our own rules about the fair treatment of prisoners.
Extra fun fact #2: Under the Obama administration, the “indefinite detention” rule was passed which, essentially, says that American citizens accused of terrorism can be held in prisons like Guantanamo Bay indefinitely, without being charged with a crime.
For that reason, I always give a new President who promises to close “Gitmo” exactly one term to do so before I label them a war criminal.
More importantly than what Snowden revealed, is what the reaction of the government revealed. (and by extension the reaction of the MSM and the public)
If a whistle-blower reveals criminal activity within the government, and is treated like a criminal because of this, and has to flee the country because of this, that shows how corrupt and criminal they are, and unwilling to change.
And apparently the population is OK with this.
Even worse, despite the government clearly showing they are criminal, for some reason the mere thought of the government being criminal is considered insane. (the very word conspiracy theory is often met with ridicule, while distrust of the government should be the norm, not the exception).
This reveals a lot about society and the government as well as the mainstream media that is sweeping it all under the rug.
Basically, shia labeouf went on a talk show and said an fbi consultant guy hired for a film was giddy and telling shia about all the spy shit they have, and how they can spy on everyone. Of course that was batshit crazy because that would be illegal and unthinkable that the government agencies are doing that… aaand everyone assumes shia is just being crazy….
Then Snowden blows the wistle and not only proves everything shia said was true, but it’s much worse. So everything before Snowden, everyone thought wasn’t possible or had heard rumors about it. Basically there was before Snowden and after Snowden. Everyone knew there was mass survalince of the internet after Snowden.
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