No one seems to mention lack of innovation.
Look at the Tundra. Every other truck manufacturer is refreshing their trucks every few years.
The Tundra? Hasn’t been refreshed in 14 years. They still use the same engine as 11 years ago. The transmission is the same one they used 14 years ago.
Have you been in a new Toyota? It’s like driving a car from 2010. It’s surreal. Get in a top of the line RAV4 and notice how stiff the seats are, how boring the interior is, how behind the times the technology is.
But all of that is part of quality. Sure, the new Rams are impressive, but all that new shit breaks because it hasn’t been perfected. Meanwhile, the Toyotas that are running the same platform as 10 years ago will last a million miles.
There’s a lot of factors, but no one seems to mention this one. As a Toyota fan who has switched to Mazda, figured I’d mention it.
When they make cars together with BMW
Toyota note that while BMW test the assembled car quite extensively, BMWs were equally surprise at the level of testing down to component level.
“…BMW couldn’t believe how extensive some of our quality and efficiency studies were as parts came into shape one by one. We would take every bit down to a fastener or rivet, and put it through our stringent quality control and a dozen other testing, we’d ship thousands of parts back to Japan for analysis. That is normal to us. Each piece we test at our level, they were now the ones surprised.”
I work for Toyota, be it the material handling part but still a lot in commin.
When we hear that a machine has issues we send techniciens to the client and they do a full diagnose on the machine.
Even if it is just a loose wire for example it gets the full diagnise.
All this data is then processed to see what has caused the problem and then the designers try to implement changes to avoid this issue in the future
Let me give an example. Volkswagen built a van named LT type 2 back in late 90’s and early 2000’s. It had a forged engine block and could see a million kilometers with ease. It did not give critical faults or the engine didn’t blow up easily. That meant no gain from the engine repairs. They stopped the production of LT and produced the new beautiful Crafter with aluminum engine blocks. Guess what, their blocks started cracking on every 500 or 600k kilometers. This might just be a conspiracy theory against VW, but seeing the professional drivers complaining with my very own eyes proved somehow right those theories. That’s where Japanese cars show themselves. Not only Toyota is that reliable, Nissan, Subaru, Mitsubishi and other variants are also quite reliable brands.
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