While Cell Phones were not popular tech, how were car phones able to be so seemingly widespread? What makes the differences in technology between the two?

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Perhaps my interpretation of this is wrong, but it seems like car phones were much more widespread and easily accessible to most members of the public as opposed to Cellular Phones which were almost exclusively for the very wealthy/businesspeople etc. Is there a difference in the tech that made this so? How does a car phone work, if its different than how a cell phone works? TIA

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Anonymous 0 Comments

Size, antenna, cost, and battery are import. Early mobile phones were big, lunking, expensive devices. The earliest mobile phones you had to carry around this giant thing that looked like the size of a small car battery with a phone connected to it via a wire. These were really inconvenient and expensive, which means who wanted them was a small audience, business, government, etc, not regular folks. They looked more like a big military radio

We then get to stuff like the [Zach Morris phone](https://imgur.com/4mzCKg2), its big but not huge, but it was still rare and expensive, but hey its not awful, it sucks to carry around, its not fitting in a pocket, but it would fit in a briefcase. Its still not great for everyone, but its way better than the huge radio ones! So its much more convienent for everyone, even though its still expensive and the audience for it is mostly the same as before, but general consumers are really really creeping in

Phones needed a lot of space, power, and a big antenna. The mobile phone networks were not built out too well and couldn’t even handle that many phones. So not only were phones inconvenient, the mobile providers needed to make sure they didn’t sell too many and overload their system (this is a real thing)

A lot of these problems, not all, but a lot of the physical ones, can be solved if you make the phone… less mobile.

That is put it in car, where you have plenty of space, plenty of power, you have lots of room for antennas and more.

Eventually mobile phones got small enough, that the need for space wasn’t a big deal, so car phones died out in favor of new small portable phones

Anonymous 0 Comments

No you’ve got it backwards, car phones were an extravagant luxury, cell phones were when it became adoptable to the plebs. Car phones basically carried everything a cell phone spreads out, it would have either a huge battery or use power from the car battery, had an enormous antenna in the trunk, was large and boxy, it was something put in the back of limos or expensive cars, only worked in cities, etc.

Cell phones were only viable once enough cell towers could carry the signal, the phone had a small antenna, a small battery, the cell tower acted as a big antenna for the cell phones small antenna. And really cell phones only became viable once pagers laid the infrastructure down, they used much of the same tech.

But car phones were not everywhere, they were a rarity and expensive to use.

Anonymous 0 Comments

The first mobile phones were in cars for the simple reason of the size weight and power requirement. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC) was the first handheld phone released in 1984 at a cost of $3,995 is equivalent to $11,253 in 2022. It was 25 cm long and had a mass of 1 kg, the battery offered 30 minutes of talk time after 10 hours of charging. Car-mounted phones were still cheaper not limited by a battery.

A cellphone is a technical portable phone that uses a radio network with a cellular architecture. Later phones in cars were cell phones too but very early were not.

The first mobile phone did not use cellular networks. the first commercial is Mobile Telephone Service (MTS) released by Bell in 1946. The equipment had a mass of 36 kg, You had one high-power radio transmitter that could cover quite a large area, The problem is there is a limited amount of available radio spectrum. MTS when released covered the St. Louis metropolitan area with a total of 3 channels, so there could be a total of 3 simultaneous calls for all users. The larger extended it to 32 changes but still not a lot for a city.

A cellular system uses many but shorter-range radio transmitters. You can reuse the same chance channels as long as the transmitter is not a direct neighbor. Look at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Frequency_reuse.svg the transmitter in the middle that uses change F1 is surrounded by 6 towers but they only use diffrent changes. So if you build a cellular network like that you only need 4 changes that you can result over and over. When a phone moves it can jump between transmitters without the user noticing it. This is the key to how cellular networks can handle an enormous amount of users, and reuse the same spectrum

There are other improvements like more calls using the same frequency range because it is digital. There is a new way to use the same channel more efficiently, there is more changes that can have higher frequency because we have electronics that can handle that. But even with that improvement, the system could not handle all traffic if we just had one higher power transmitter that covered all of the city.

The first cell mobile phone system was placed 1979 in Japan, which predates the first handheld mobile phone by 4 years.

So lot of car phones were cellular phones it just depended on when they were made and what technology was used. I am not sure if all commercial-handled phones used cell systems but I would not be surprised if that did.

So car vs handled is just a question of how compact and expensive electronics are used not what system they transmitted, there are cellular phones for both models.

Anonymous 0 Comments

The car phone is actually about the size of shoebox, but most of it is hidden in the trunk or under the seat. It was the miniaturization of handhelds that made them so expensive.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Car phones were extremely rare. There was a big ole antenna on the back of cars with phones.