why does asphyxiation from carbon dioxide cause pain, but other gases such as nitrogen don’t?

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Why does nitrogen cause you to just pass out but carbon dioxide causes you to suffocated and feel it? Is it because of the oxygen in carbon dioxide?

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Asphyxia – a condition caused by lack of oxygen causing death.

It isn’t necessarily the carbon dioxide that causes asphyxia however it does result in harm and can be potentially fatal to the body.
The body reacts to excess carbon dioxide much more readily than other gases as it is naturally occurring within the body in harmful quantities. The way the body reacts is by breathing (ventilating) more to get rid of it. This gives an
uncomfortable and breathless experience.
The relationship between amount of Carbon dioxide in the lungs and the amount the body needs to breath is illustrated with this graph:
https://images.app.goo.gl/qrfZJ9FuTeq7bDRz5

As a side note others have noted that the body does not react to low oxygen levels, this is incorrect. The body has mechanisms that ultimately result in an increased amount of breathing (ventilation) which is quite well illustrated with this graph:
https://images.app.goo.gl/TxHerSiNdLtpEs338

The likely reason for the misunderstanding is that most people don’t get to the point where they experience low levels of carbon dioxide before they experience low oxygen.

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When CO2 is dissolved in your blood, it makes carbonic acid. Our bodies can detect the levels of carbonic acid, and if it builds up too much, we know it’s an issue and that’s what causes the pain.

A lack of oxygen, or asphyxiation with nitrogen doesn’t prevent you from exhaling CO2, so the CO2 never builds up. Our bodies also cant detect the levels of oxygen or nitrogen because they don’t form something easy to detect like carbonic acid when they are in our blood.

You can’t actually die of asphyxiation from CO2 because you’d die of CO2 poisoning first. The carbonic acid levels would build too high and start doing damage after overpowering the buffers that keep your pH in check.

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When CO2 is dissolved in your blood, it makes carbonic acid. Our bodies can detect the levels of carbonic acid, and if it builds up too much, we know it’s an issue and that’s what causes the pain.

A lack of oxygen, or asphyxiation with nitrogen doesn’t prevent you from exhaling CO2, so the CO2 never builds up. Our bodies also cant detect the levels of oxygen or nitrogen because they don’t form something easy to detect like carbonic acid when they are in our blood.

You can’t actually die of asphyxiation from CO2 because you’d die of CO2 poisoning first. The carbonic acid levels would build too high and start doing damage after overpowering the buffers that keep your pH in check.

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I used to work for an industrial gas company. At a plant that made pure liquid nitrogen and nitrogen gas, all the plant staff knew that if you wanted to get rid of your wife, you’d put a mask over her face while she slept and valve in nitrogen gas. Almost undetectable by an autopsy. We were told that nitrogen is a special gas that shuts off the human brain and nervous system like a switch. I believe detectives are on to this method by now.

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I used to work for an industrial gas company. At a plant that made pure liquid nitrogen and nitrogen gas, all the plant staff knew that if you wanted to get rid of your wife, you’d put a mask over her face while she slept and valve in nitrogen gas. Almost undetectable by an autopsy. We were told that nitrogen is a special gas that shuts off the human brain and nervous system like a switch. I believe detectives are on to this method by now.

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I used to work for an industrial gas company. At a plant that made pure liquid nitrogen and nitrogen gas, all the plant staff knew that if you wanted to get rid of your wife, you’d put a mask over her face while she slept and valve in nitrogen gas. Almost undetectable by an autopsy. We were told that nitrogen is a special gas that shuts off the human brain and nervous system like a switch. I believe detectives are on to this method by now.

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Others have covered the “why does my body experience pain when asphyxiation from CO2”, but it is interesting to consider why we (and all animals) have this reaction to CO2 specifically, but not to other gases.

A long time ago, in the earliest era of animals that took oxygen in and exhaled CO2, there was a danger of staying in one place with poor circulation, and dying of too little oxygen and too much CO2. Pain is a good motivator, and the creatures that experienced pain when staying somewhere unsafe from a gaseous content perspective survived, and those that did not died in caves and underwater bubbles.

In those days, fire was all but unheard of, and there was no normal way to get too much nitrogen. In other words, good levels of oxygen would also mean good (ie., sufficiently low) levels of CO2 would be normal, and poor levels (ie., sufficiently high) of CO2 would also mean poor levels of oxygen. So, all we had to have was one detection method. As others have indicated, it was easier to use the acidic nature of CO2 to detect high levels of CO2, instead of having to evolve a much more complex method of detecting low levels of oxygen.

Since the two levels were inversely proportional, just our internal CO2 detectors alone did the job wonderfully.

Even when our human-like ancestors discovered fire and started to use it in more closed areas, CO2 was always a much greater danger than carbon monoxide or a lack of oxygen, so our one little internal CO2 sensor still did its job like a champ.

It has only been in the last few hundred or few thousand years, a mere blink of the eye in evolutionary terms, that humans have introduced gaseous dangers that our internal CO2 detectors might not warn us about. Carbon monoxide just makes us sleepy. A lack of oxygen gives us headaches but does not trigger a biological response like CO2. Too much nitrogen or helium that reduces the amount of oxygen likewise does not trigger a pain response that demands action, and can allow asphyxiation without the person ever knowing what is wrong.

All because our bodies are only good at detecting the one gas, CO2, that has always been a danger.

(So, what is our solution? Like with so many other things, where biology and evolution cannot help our bodies cope with modern life, we use our brains. We used canaries, and would see if they passed out, since they would pass out before the humans would. We used flames and other visual clues. Now, we have detectors that watch for CO2, CO, low O2 levels, and anything else we might need to keep an eye on.)

Anonymous 0 Comments

Others have covered the “why does my body experience pain when asphyxiation from CO2”, but it is interesting to consider why we (and all animals) have this reaction to CO2 specifically, but not to other gases.

A long time ago, in the earliest era of animals that took oxygen in and exhaled CO2, there was a danger of staying in one place with poor circulation, and dying of too little oxygen and too much CO2. Pain is a good motivator, and the creatures that experienced pain when staying somewhere unsafe from a gaseous content perspective survived, and those that did not died in caves and underwater bubbles.

In those days, fire was all but unheard of, and there was no normal way to get too much nitrogen. In other words, good levels of oxygen would also mean good (ie., sufficiently low) levels of CO2 would be normal, and poor levels (ie., sufficiently high) of CO2 would also mean poor levels of oxygen. So, all we had to have was one detection method. As others have indicated, it was easier to use the acidic nature of CO2 to detect high levels of CO2, instead of having to evolve a much more complex method of detecting low levels of oxygen.

Since the two levels were inversely proportional, just our internal CO2 detectors alone did the job wonderfully.

Even when our human-like ancestors discovered fire and started to use it in more closed areas, CO2 was always a much greater danger than carbon monoxide or a lack of oxygen, so our one little internal CO2 sensor still did its job like a champ.

It has only been in the last few hundred or few thousand years, a mere blink of the eye in evolutionary terms, that humans have introduced gaseous dangers that our internal CO2 detectors might not warn us about. Carbon monoxide just makes us sleepy. A lack of oxygen gives us headaches but does not trigger a biological response like CO2. Too much nitrogen or helium that reduces the amount of oxygen likewise does not trigger a pain response that demands action, and can allow asphyxiation without the person ever knowing what is wrong.

All because our bodies are only good at detecting the one gas, CO2, that has always been a danger.

(So, what is our solution? Like with so many other things, where biology and evolution cannot help our bodies cope with modern life, we use our brains. We used canaries, and would see if they passed out, since they would pass out before the humans would. We used flames and other visual clues. Now, we have detectors that watch for CO2, CO, low O2 levels, and anything else we might need to keep an eye on.)