Why is it not possible to build a PC that delivers the same performance as a PS5 at the same cost? What are we missing?

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Why is it not possible to build a PC that delivers the same performance as a PS5 at the same cost? What are we missing?

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Anonymous 0 Comments

That is a really good question and thank you for asking it. i will study the replies well to try to gain some insight. Thanks again

Anonymous 0 Comments

You can get pretty close with amd

But given the consoles are all amd based and are sold at a hardware cost loss, the licensing and cut of sales are where they make the money.

So you’re not comparing like for like, if you had what the console hardware actually cost Vs it’s mrsp you’d be closer to £700 which covers a GPU fast enough to smoke the Xbox/ps5

Anonymous 0 Comments

Sony sell subscriptions. The profit from the consoles is not the main thing.

As others have said they are able to optimise through economies of scale their bottom line.

Pc usually needs a monitor (and a windows license)

Anonymous 0 Comments

Aside from bulk discounts on hardware and such that others have mentioned, a PS5 has to do one thing: play software that is written explicitly for it. A PC has to do a million things with a variety of different parts from disparate manufacturers, it has to run software that nobody has even heard of in 20 years because some textile mill’s entire operation can only be run by that software, etc. Basically there is a spectrum between specialized and general, and consoles and PCs sit on opposite ends of that spectrum. That implies trade-offs in both hardware and software, corners that can be cut on a console that wouldn’t fly on a PC.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Seems no one mentioned that a console has straight up less material than computers. It has fewer fans, probably fewer materials for the case (plastic/steel/other metals), smaller total PCB surface, fewer ports. It also has less memory because, unlike computers, console APUs use only GDDR. On PCs, you buy the RAM and then the GDDR is in your graphics card. This has to be so because computer software relies on normal DDR memory, which has lower latency but also less bandwidth, so it’s inadequate for graphics. AMD sold repurposed PS5/Xbox Series chips on premade boards with GDDR and they suffered from this. See here: [https://youtu.be/cZS-4PgD4SI?t=242](https://youtu.be/cZS-4PgD4SI?t=242)

Consoles still get the benefits of scale *and* subsidies, but this is on top of the efficiency they get from custom-made parts that use only the amount of material that is necessary. When they release Slim versions, the material costs is lowered further.

Computer OSs also have features that are mostly unnecessary in consoles. If the OS isn’t second-guessing the game at every turn, it will be more efficient as long as developers put time into optimization. On PC, there are so many layers between the game and the hardware that optimizations aren’t always rewarding. DirectX 12 and Vulkan were made to alleviate this problem.

TL;DR we could probably build a machine with similar cost to a console if we had APUs that could use the same memory for all tasks and this memory was fast enough. Memory would have to be soldered to the motherboard. This may happen in the future as ARM chips are already like this, but until then, PCs will always need more parts and will struggle to meet the same price point even without subsidies until later in the generation unless the console is very under powered on release or suffers from other limitations (like thermals, which is quite crazy now that the PS5 uses liquid metal).

Anonymous 0 Comments

You mean, you still can’t, 4 years after PS5 released?

Anonymous 0 Comments

PCs have to run windows. It’s a lot clunkier than console UIs. So even if you made it as powerful the games wouldn’t run as good. So the PC actually has to be more powerful. It takes time for video card prices to come down to that level.

Anonymous 0 Comments

AI upscaling is making this more feasible. You can have the game set at a lower resolution than your monitor, and the game will upscale it to what it should be, with no tax on performance.

The ps5 pro will have this technology built in.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Everyone here is focusing on subsidizing but the thing they’re leaving out is hardware differences.

The PS5 has a lot of stuff that isn’t common (though can be done) on a PC even though it shares a similar architecture.

The CPU and GPU can share the same memory. And it uses very fast GDDR6 RAM. This means it isn’t spending as much time copying resources between the two.

It also has direct storage access and dedicated decompression parts that can further speed up data access.

You get much lower level access via its APIs as well that can target specifically the hardware it has.

Since there’s only one hardware specification, you can also precompute many things like shaders.

It also is prioritizing resources to your game with a much lighter OS.

A comparable PC in pure horse power wouldn’t be able to match the PS5 for sheer throughput of data flowing. And that’s the real reason it can punch so much higher above its weight even after you remove the subsidies.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Sony gets a cut on every game you buy, so they sell the PS5 at a loss. It’s how every console has operated, they make their profits on game sales. There’s also subscription revenue they can count on now.