eli5 does space only curve in one direction?

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graphics about black holes or planets’ influence on gravity, etc., always show these bodies “sitting” on a flat surface and then bending that surface below them. is this a literal representation – ie is there a definitive “down” direction that always dips under the objects’ mass? or does it happen in multiple directions somehow? (or am i misunderstanding something fundamental about this curving?)

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Anonymous 0 Comments

The curvature of space happens in 4 dimensions. You will never see a literal representation of it because it’s impossible. There is no “down” in space. Gravity works around the entire object.

Anonymous 0 Comments

No, things are actually 3D and gravity does work in 3D, but visualizations can just be abstract and “simplified”.

If you observe a starry sky, you can see how all around us there are stars. In every direction. 3D. But of course, eventually you might reach the edge of the galaxy and not see stars on one side, if you were able to move within the galaxy.

Anonymous 0 Comments

That’s just the cheapest and quickest way to show how gravity works. [This is a much better representation.](https://www.reddit.com/r/educationalgifs/s/kyWS1kLghJ)

Anonymous 0 Comments

Does it only curve in one direction?

As I understand anti-matter produces anti-gravity. Wouldn’t that mean antimatter makes space-time curve in the opposite direction?

Anonymous 0 Comments

The heavy ball sitting on a stretched sheet causing a depression in the sheet causing objects to “fall down” the depression illustration only gets you so far, and you see its limitations.

The illustration itself relies on assuming gravity pulls things down in the first place, since otherwise objects have no reason to tend to fall down a depression in the sheet. To really understand GR, you have to understand two things.

One is that there are not just three spatial dimensions, but a fourth dimension, orthogonal to the the three spatial ones, and that’s time. Together they form spacetime.

The second is the idea of a geodesic, which is the shortest path between two points in a curved geometry. Objects take the shortest path through spacetime (not just through space, and not just through time, but through *spacetime*).

These two taken together give you the reason behind the phenomenon of gravitational attraction. Everything is moving with a constant “velocity” through space time. In the 2d curved sheet analogy, take an object, and then draw a straight line extending out to infinity. That’s how the object will travel absent any other forces. It will follow that straight line. But now when you start curving the sheet, suddenly that straight line is bent so it intersects with say a planet.

The reason you fall down to earth is because you’re moving through spacetime, and the earth is in your future. The reason it’s in your future is your future “worldline” (the line you take through spacetime) is a straight line through spacetime, but because the earth curves the region of spacetime around it your straight worldline intersects the earth.

Anonymous 0 Comments

There’s a hilarious XKCD comic on this exact issue. In short the “sunken rubber sheet” isn’t even necessarily GR, even plain Newtonian gravity can use this representation. The downward displacement represents a lower potential energy associated with the 2d position. The third, vertical, dimension doesn’t represent position of any kind.
https://xkcd.com/895/