Saw different sources say that the earth rotates the sun in 365.256 days as well as 365.2422 days.

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Are both correct? If only one is, which is it. Either way, why?

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Anonymous 0 Comments

The time to orbit changes from year to year. Sometimes it’s faster, sometimes it’s slower. Maybe we get pushed or pulled by Jupiter, maybe we fly a little closer to the sun when that happens. I’m sure the rate of change is following a trend, but I don’t know what. This is why we have leap years and leap days and leap seconds – our clocks are becoming ever more precise, and we are trying to keep our concept of a calendar in line with the orbital period of our planet, and it’s not perfect. When the Catholic Church switched from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian in 1582, the two had drifted so far apart a whole 10 calendar days basically didn’t happen during the switch – merely decreed on this day we’re switching calendars and the date will be X.

Anonymous 0 Comments

It turns out there are a surprising large number of ways to measure how long a year really is.

The first number you mentioned is called the sidereal year and measure the time until the earth ends up being where it was in respect to the sun and the stars. You look up at the stars in the sky and where the sun is in respect to them and wait until it is back the way it was.

The other figure you mentioned is the tropical year and the one we most commonly use because it keeps track of the seasons.

If you look at the numbers you will notice that the difference is slight only about 20 minutes a year. It would take 25,772 years for this difference to add up to a whole year.

The earth rotates around its own axis (once a day) not unlike a fast spinning top, but if you ever looked at a top you will have noticed that they tend to not just spin but also much more slowly change where the top of the top is pointing in a circular fashion that much slower cycling is called precession.

With the earth it means that very slowly the direction the earth axis points changes over time and for example the pole star we see to day is a different one than the people alive 2000 years ago had as a pole star or the people in a few millennia will have.

Today’s pole star is Polaris but in the year 7575 (if men is still alive) it will be alpha centauri.

This motion of the earths axis means takes 20 minutes away from each star based year to create a season based year.

This whole circle repeats ever 26 millennia, the time it takes for the difference between the tropical and sidereal year to add up to one year.

Weird right?

Of course there are also other ways to define a year like instead of looking at summer and winter or the stars, you look at when earth is closest and farthest from the sun. Currently Earth is closest to the sun in early January and farthest in early July on our calender about a fortnight after the winter and summer solstice.

But since the elliptic orbit of the earth around the sun is actually slowly rotating itself, the year measured based on that called the anomalistic is about 25 minutes longer than the year based on the season and in a few short millennia we will have the earth being closest to the sun when the northern hemisphere enjoys summer.

The coolest named year however is the draconic year. It is based on eclipses and also close to a year, but much shorter.

The point being the stuff that you learn in school where the earth goes around the sun in neat regular circles is all a lie or at least a gross oversimplification. There are a ton of different rotations going on and even the way things rotate rotates itself over long enough time.

If you want to answer the question of “how long is a year” with any real accuracy you first have to decided which of dozen or more different phenomena you actually want to measure.

Of course over the average lifetime of a human most of the difference don’t really matter much, but some people like precision.

Anonymous 0 Comments

The Earth rotates around the sun in 365.256 days, this is called a Sidereal year.

But there is also a Tropical Year which is 365.2422 days long, this is the time between Vernal Equinoxes or equivalent. This is how long it takes for the Seasons to repeat

For the sidereal year, draw a line from the Sun to Alpha Centauri and when the Earth crosses that line your year begins and when it crosses it again your year ends. Nice and simple and what you traditionally think of as a year

For a tropical year you measure from when the sun crosses the equator going northward until it crosses the equator going northward again, but because the Earth is tilted and this tilt changes a bit every year the tropical year ends up being different. If you were to set your line in the first example such that the north pole of the Earth is also pointed towards Alpha Centauri then every rotation you’d notice that the North Pole was pointed a bit further away and after about 12,900 years you’ll see its pointed almost directly away from Alpha Centauri when it crosses the line, and after 25,772 years it will complete its cycle and be pointed directly back at Alpha Centauri at the start of a new year.