Why can’t a naval ship have chains extended on sides to keep torpedos from reach it?

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I’ve always thought a navy ship could have arms extending from each side, out say 20′ or so that holds some sort of draping system, like a chain or something, that extends below the bottom of the hull. Then, if a sub fired a torpedo at it, it would either explose on the chain or just get caught up in it.

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Anonymous 0 Comments

Because it would reduce the hydrodynamic shape of the ship, add weight, potentially destabilize the ship and a torpedo could just push past the chain?

Anonymous 0 Comments

Its called a [torpedo net](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_net) and it was a thing, but only when ships are in port or otherwise not moving. You could either put a big thick net across the harbor or [around a specific ship](https://maritime.org/doc/netsandbooms/img/pg064.jpg)

The nets provide a significant increase in drag so they’re no good when underway, they’ll slow a ship wayyyy down and it’ll burn way more fuel attempting to drag them around and it makes the ship way more vulnerable to anything that isn’t a torpedo

The mobile version is a torpedo bulge which is a big blister on the side of the hull with layers of air/water/oil to dissipate the blast before it damages the core hull of the ship. This has a pretty minimal impact on overall speed and weight if designed in from the start, and could also be retrofitted onto existing ships

Anonymous 0 Comments

Torpedoes arm at a X distance. Not necessarily on impact. The explosion regardless would still do damage through the bubble created. Look at how a torpedo kills a ship video.

Anonymous 0 Comments

This is indeed what they used to do. In late 19th, early 20th century warship photos you can see [collapsed poles along the side of the ship](https://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/august/ships/HP_Dreadnought_02.JPG), and on top is bundled netting. When [deployed, it looked like this.](https://external-preview.redd.it/eX80qA3sNKrYpJmEISQweDV-pjQwJjD7XTjmHYqQTBM.jpg?auto=webp&s=77c34aa6495aeac8a5fcd98e8f9892ecc78b69b2)

The problem is, you can’t use torpedo nets while you’re underway, and typically, your ships don’t get attacked by torpedos when you’re in harbor – shallow enclosed waters are not fun to be a submariner in if you get discovered – you get attacked by torpedoes when you’re at sea and underway.

So torpedo nets were done away with largely by WWII and replaced with anti-torpedo bulges – these were a sacrificial fake outer hull, itself compartmentalized to minimize damage and water intake, that would force the torpedo to detonate outside of the main hull of the ship.

We’ve done away with even that because torpedos now are way more effective. Instead of trying to blast a hole in the side of the ship – which because of compartmentalization and damage control can be easily mitigated and would rarely immobilize a ship – they now are designed to detonate underneath the keel or bottom spine of the ship, breaking it in two essentially, buckling the hull and making so many tears and burst seams that saving the ship is impossible.

edit: keel not keep. damn autocorrect.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Some torpedoes like the mk 48 can travel under the ship and use the explosion and water expansion to break the keel. Causes a lot of damage that is on the bottom well below the waterline and will cause them to sink very quickly.

Anonymous 0 Comments

But how about networked underwater drones, to intercept the torpedos?

Anonymous 0 Comments

US Navy ships have a device called a Nixie which can be deployed behind the ship to attempt to draw torpedoes to it rather than the ship.

Anonymous 0 Comments

That’s kind of what DARPA is trying to do for vehicles with its iron curtain experiment. It’s an extendable plate that lowers and cuts projectiles in half before they hit the armor.

Anonymous 0 Comments

They did! It was called a torpedo belt, but bulge armor was more common. In reality, there was only so much you could do to avoid getting hit by a torpedo, especially since a submarine could fire one at you from any direction and impact you just about anywhere on the parts of the ship exposed to water.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Modern torpedos often don’t actually strike the hull of the ship. They well detonate a short distance below the hull to create a cavity/vacuum that will break the keel of the ship. The chains or curtain, which I think is a good idea, would have to extend pretty far down and they would have to be sufficiently heavy and secure as the torpedos might not detonate on impact