Why were ridiculously fast planes like the SR-71 built, and why hasn’t it speed record been broken for 50 years?

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Why were ridiculously fast planes like the SR-71 built, and why hasn’t it speed record been broken for 50 years?

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Anonymous 0 Comments

My dad flew the SR-71 in the late 70’s early 80’s. I would get to watch him suit up, what a neat experience as a kid! I also heard him break the sound barrier a few times when coming back to base. Dad absolutely loved flying this plane. I’ve seen him cry very few times in my life but the day the last flight of the blackbird came into DC, flown by JT Vida, he cried hard. So proud of my dad, Gene Quist 💕

Anonymous 0 Comments

The SR-71 could evade air defenses with raw speed and altitude. Air defenses have improved to the point where it would take a truly revolutionary leap to make an airplanes that could use its speed and altitude to do so. Couple that with satellites and stealth and the cost/benefit/practicality doesn’t make sense.

At least on paper. Who knows what remains classified.

Anonymous 0 Comments

The replacement for those spy planes is top secret. We won’t know about them for another 30 years, if ever. I’ll bet there are aircraft out there right now that have Radar and optical stealth and are going in and out of sovereign airspace at will. They may or may not be manned.

As other people have pointed out, satellites can be planned for. There will always be a need to put eyes on a target from the air.

The alternative would be to send in special forces with drones. Either way, satellites cannot be the final answer.

Anonymous 0 Comments

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Anonymous 0 Comments

Its speed record for “how fast can something go” has been broken a bunch of times. The North American X-15 went 4520 mph.

There was even a direct competitor to the SR-71 called the A-12 that went pretty much the same speed, they just look pretty much the same.

The design challenges to make something that flies that fast is where the economics falls apart. The SR71 was extremely expensive, and it was only able to hit those speeds because of the altitude it was flying at. Flying at those speeds at lower altitude would have destroyed the plane At sea level the aircraft was limited to much slower speeds, normally under 1 mach. (500 mph or less)

so basically “How do you go really really fast in a plane?” – go really really high… why don’t we do it anymore? there is no need

btw – the ISS is currently going 4.76 Miles per second… thats over 18k mph. Its just up really really high.

edit: guys – I get it the ISS isn’t a plane, it was just a cool tidbit about shit going really fast

Anonymous 0 Comments

For the “why hasn’t something faster been built”:

There’s no need for anything as fast or faster. Flying at M3.2 requires Ramjet engines, custom fuel that won’t spontaneously ignite when the aircraft gets hot and a shit ton of maintenance time on the ground.

Theoretically, a Ramjet engine is good up to Mach 5 at which point the intake temperature exceeds the working temp of all known materials. The SR-71 showed that even getting 2/3 of the way there requires buckets of money, R&D and maintenance, so we’re pretty much at the limits of that technology.

The next step up requires a new generation of engines, either a Scramjet (Supersonic Combustion Ramjet) being developed by NASA on the X43-A) or the Sabre engine being developed by a British company. Shit like this takes a looooong time to develop and test, when I was studying aerospace engineering in the late 80s I wrote a paper on the design and development of both engines. They’ve only started testing them in the last few years!

Anonymous 0 Comments

It technically was broken by the A-12. Additionally, faster air breathing planes exist, but they are pilot-less, like the scram jet prototypes

Anonymous 0 Comments

The satellite thing is one of them, but the SR-71–as incredible as it is– has a record that hasn’t been broken *officially*. There’d probably be no way of knowing

Anonymous 0 Comments

*unzips*

There were a lot of things we couldn’t do in an SR-71, but we were the fastest guys on the block and loved reminding our fellow aviators of this fact. People often asked us if, because of this fact, it was fun to fly the jet. Fun would not be the first word I would use to describe flying this plane. Intense, maybe. Even cerebral. But there was one day in our Sled experience when we would have to say that it was pure fun to be the fastest guys out there, at least for a moment. It occurred when Walt and I were flying our final training sortie. We needed 100 hours in the jet to complete our training and attain Mission Ready status. Somewhere over Colorado we had passed the century mark. We had made the turn in Arizona and the jet was performing flawlessly. My gauges were wired in the front seat and we were starting to feel pretty good about ourselves, not only because we would soon be flying real missions but because we had gained a great deal of confidence in the plane in the past ten months. Ripping across the barren deserts 80,000 feet below us, I could already see the coast of California from the Arizona border. I was, finally, after many humbling months of simulators and study, ahead of the jet. I was beginning to feel a bit sorry for Walter in the back seat. There he was, with no really good view of the incredible sights before us, tasked with monitoring four different radios. This was good practice for him for when we began flying real missions, when a priority transmission from headquarters could be vital. It had been difficult, too, for me to relinquish control of the radios, as during my entire flying career I had controlled my own transmissions. But it was part of the division of duties in this plane and I had adjusted to it. I still insisted on talking on the radio while we were on the ground, however. Walt was so good at many things, but he couldn’t match my expertise at sounding smooth on the radios, a skill that had been honed sharply with years in fighter squadrons where the slightest radio miscue was grounds for beheading. He understood that and allowed me that luxury. Just to get a sense of what Walt had to contend with, I pulled the radio toggle switches and monitored the frequencies along with him. The predominant radio chatter was from Los Angeles Center, far below us, controlling daily traffic in their sector. While they had us on their scope (albeit briefly), we were in uncontrolled airspace and normally would not talk to them unless we needed to descend into their airspace. We listened as the shaky voice of a lone Cessna pilot asked Center for a readout of his ground speed. Center replied: November Charlie 175, I’m showing you at ninety knots on the ground. Now the thing to understand about Center controllers, was that whether they were talking to a rookie pilot in a Cessna, or to Air Force One, they always spoke in the exact same, calm, deep, professional, tone that made one feel important. I referred to it as the “ HoustonCentervoice.” I have always felt that after years of seeing documentaries on this country’s space program and listening to the calm and distinct voice of the Houstoncontrollers, that all other controllers since then wanted to sound like that… and that they basically did. And it didn’t matter what sector of the country we would be flying in, it always seemed like the same guy was talking. Over the years that tone of voice had become somewhat of a comforting sound to pilots everywhere. Conversely, over the years, pilots always wanted to ensure that, when transmitting, they sounded like Chuck Yeager, or at least like John Wayne. Better to die than sound bad on the radios. Just moments after the Cessna’s inquiry, a Twin Beech piped up on frequency, in a rather superior tone, asking for his groundspeed. Twin Beach, I have you at one hundred and twenty-five knots of ground speed. Boy, I thought, the Beechcraft really must think he is dazzling his Cessna brethren. Then out of the blue, a navy F-18 pilot out of NAS Lemoore came up on frequency. You knew right away it was a Navy jock because he sounded very cool on the radios. Center, Dusty 52 ground speed check Before Center could reply, I’m thinking to myself, hey, Dusty 52 has a ground speed indicator in that million-dollar cockpit, so why is he asking Center for a readout? Then I got it, ol’ Dusty here is making sure that every bug smasher from Mount Whitney to the Mojave knows what true speed is. He’s the fastest dude in the valley today, and he just wants everyone to know how much fun he is having in his new Hornet. And the reply, always with that same, calm, voice, with more distinct alliteration than emotion: Dusty 52, Center, we have you at 620 on the ground. And I thought to myself, is this a ripe situation, or what? As my hand instinctively reached for the mic button, I had to remind myself that Walt was in control of the radios. Still, I thought, it must be done – in mere seconds we’ll be out of the sector and the opportunity will be lost. That Hornet must die, and die now. I thought about all of our Sim training and how important it was that we developed well as a crew and knew that to jump in on the radios now would destroy the integrity of all that we had worked toward becoming. I was torn. Somewhere, 13 miles above Arizona, there was a pilot screaming inside his space helmet. Then, I heard it. The click of the mic button from the back seat. That was the very moment that I knew Walter and I had become a crew. Very professionally, and with no emotion, Walter spoke: Los Angeles Center, Aspen 20, can you give us a ground speed check? There was no hesitation, and the replay came as if was an everyday request. Aspen 20, I show you at one thousand eight hundred and forty-two knots, across the ground. I think it was the forty-two knots that I liked the best, so accurate and proud was Center to deliver that information without hesitation, and you just knew he was smiling. But the precise point at which I knew that Walt and I were going to be really good friends for a long time was when he keyed the mic once again to say, in his most fighter-pilot-like voice: Ah, Center, much thanks, We’re showing closer to nineteen hundred on the money. For a moment Walter was a god. And we finally heard a little crack in the armor of the HoustonCentervoice, when L.A.came back with: Roger that Aspen, Your equipment is probably more accurate than ours. You boys have a good one. It all had lasted for just moments, but in that short, memorable sprint across the southwest, the Navy had been flamed, all mortal airplanes on freq were forced to bow before the King of Speed, and more importantly, Walter and I had crossed the threshold of being a crew. A fine day’s work. We never heard another transmission on that frequency all the way to the coast. For just one day, it truly was fun being the fastest guys out there.

Anonymous 0 Comments

Before we could use satellites to take pictures from space, if we wanted to see what was going on in enemy territory, we had to take pictures from a plane.

Enemies didn’t want us taking pictures so they would try to stop the plane – usually by blowing it up with missiles.

We didn’t have “stealth” technology yet to keep from being seen, so if we wanted to avoid getting hit with missiles, we needed a way to avoid them. The best way we could come up with was to go so fast they couldn’t catch up.

Being really high in the air helped this, because it’s easier to go fast up high, and because it would take missiles so long to get up to you, you could be out of the area before they reached that height.

As a result, the SR-71 was designed to go as high and as fast as possible.

Since then, we learned to build space satellites to take our pictures, which can’t be hit with missiles. We also developed “stealth” technology for planes, which keeps them from being seen on radar. This means we no longer need to develop planes for high and fast work, so the SR-71 remains the best at that.

(Edited to remove error related to a missile strike)